Political Irony

14 Comments

1. Dave, TN wrote:

   http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trumps-ex-wife-once-said-he-kept-a-book-of-hitlers-speeches-by-his-bed-2015-8

   Thursday, March 17, 2016 at 5:25 am | Permalink
2. PatriotST wrote:

   Very poor. You could sound bite any candidate running for office today to many of the evil leaders of the worlds past. Shame on you.

   The left did the same comparison to Bush and called him the same names as they are now to Trump. But when the right makes up untrue stuff about Obama, its outrageous in your eyes.

   We must be bigger then that.

   Thursday, March 17, 2016 at 5:52 am | Permalink
3. il-08 wrote:

   Weren’t you the guy who invoked Goodwin’s Law to me a while ago? Yup, I think so…..

   Thursday, March 17, 2016 at 7:04 am | Permalink
4. Iron Knee wrote:

   Note that this was filed under humor. I thought it was funny. And I explicitly said that I don’t think Trump is comparable to Hitler.

   Thursday, March 17, 2016 at 7:14 am | Permalink
5. ThatGuy wrote:

   He’s definitely the most open demagogue running, and has no qualms about promoting violence against those who disagree with him. There are certainly parallels, though Hitler enjoyed a much larger groundswell of support than the mass of troglodytes turning out for Trump.

   Matt Taibbi has a recent piece about the danger of the Trump candidacy, arguing that although there may not be that many rabid supporters, there are plenty of people who will be cowed into or happy to follow so long as Trump’s wrath never turns to scapegoat them.

   http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/why-trumps-endorsements-should-scare-your-pants-off-20160311

   Thursday, March 17, 2016 at 7:42 am | Permalink
6. Ralph wrote:

   I wouldn’t play the Hitler card just yet, besides it’s so cliche and overused they even made up a “law” about it. But I guess the comparisons were inevitable given the authoritarian, strident rhetoric and images of people at his rallies raising their hands pledging to vote for him.

   The more despicable thing for me is how many Republicans (the “responsible adults” in the room, remember?) are now trying to blame Obama for Trump’s rise, just like they’re blaming him for ISIS and anything else they can pawn off because, you know, he’s been…hell, I don’t even pretend to try to figure anymore how they rationalize it all to their base. Not even sure how much of their base even hears the establishment anymore, given the present reality on the ground.

   There’s an old adage in politics that says “when you find yourself in a hole, stop digging”. But Repos have been digging themselves in so deep over the years it’s hard to image a ladder long enough for them to climb out. Despite Jindal and others admonishment to stop being the party of stupid, they have only seemed to double down on that act over Obama’s second term. Even now over Scalia’s replacement. Throw them a olive branch and they hit you over the head with it.

   If anything good comes from the Trump phenom (doubtful), perhaps it’ll be a true wake up call for them, but we may well be seeing the end of the GOP as we’ve known it for the last 50 years or more. When major conservative publications, like the National Review or Forbes, are writing your obituary, when you’ve gone from Lincoln to Theodore Roosevelt to Trump, maybe it’s finally time to take stock and recalibrate your strategy going forward. If there is any forward.
   http://www.forbes.com/sites/johnzogby/2016/03/16/rest-in-peace-to-the-republican-party/#2847e5b56fe3

   Thursday, March 17, 2016 at 9:56 am | Permalink
7. Carter Shmeckle wrote:

   Ralph,

   “I wouldn’t play the Hitler card just yet”

   True. It’s much too soon. Start with “KKK supporter.” Progress to “Mussolini.” After the convention,”Stalin.” If the ignorant masses still don’t get it, start playing the Hitler card in September. In the unlikely event even that doesn’t work, we go with “Antichrist” in October.

   If, heaven forfend, all else fails, I suggest we circulate Trump body odor rumors on election day.

   We’ve simply gotta stop this guy. Otherwise, reason and civility in our political discourse will never be restored.

   Thursday, March 17, 2016 at 10:11 am | Permalink
8. Wildwood wrote:

   I don’t like Trump and how he campaigns, but if he is forced out, I like the alternatives less. We should save the disparaging comparisons for when he gets the nomination.

   Thursday, March 17, 2016 at 11:27 am | Permalink
9. PATRIOTSGT wrote:

   Ralph, you got it right, the “trying to blame Obama for Trump’s rise” republican establishment is completely wrong. It’s more about them (the establishment) then it is Obama.

   What is very interesting to me is the louder the opposition has become against Trump, the better he is doing. So I’d be careful in the “he’s the splitting image of Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, KKK Grand Knight, Etc. They’ve all become way over used by the left, and nobody listens to it anymore. It’s just like when the GOP used to propose budget cuts, and the first response was always grandmothers being pushed off cliffs, or kids starving. The words are empty. If that’s the only plan there is, I’d get used to the idea of President Trump.

   Thursday, March 17, 2016 at 11:36 am | Permalink
10. ThatGuy wrote:

    Let’s hope not. The last thing we need as a supposed leader of the free world is a racist, sexist demagogue whose policy proposals (if one can call them that) are completely unworkable and/or illegal.

    Fortunately, he doesn’t poll so well against Clinton (and even worse against Sanders), and I expect that to get even worse for him once the sideshow that is the GOP primary is over. Promising the audience that he’s well endowed will only play for so long, and against a debater actually interested in governance policies as opposed to schoolyard jabs, he’ll look much sillier.

    If anything, the GOP has learned nothing from ’08 or ’12. Instead of becoming more inclusive, they’ve become less so (somehow, they managed). The rhetoric against immigrants and Muslims has become even harsher, and their stance on women’s health is just as medieval as ever, and as such they forfeit several meaningful demographics.

    Of course, I could be wrong. Maybe Trump successfully distances himself from his current incarnation during the general and we do indeed end up with President Trump, but that will say an awful lot about where our country has gone, and it won’t be good.

    Thursday, March 17, 2016 at 12:24 pm | Permalink
11. Ralph wrote:

    Thanks PATRIOTSGT, just trying to keep it real, but I can also appreciate IK’s sense of ironic humor. It’s one reason I check in here fairly regularly. It’s either find a good laugh or look for a good psychiatrist. Also suggest the All Hat No Cattle blogspot, good for a daily chuckle or two, generally at the expense of the GOP and other clueless wingnuts.

    Speaking of real, there’s a good synopsis of the print media’s debate around Trump’s White House prospects in the March 18 edition of The Week. Although a few journalists can envision a meandering path under certain unlikely scenarios, most agree that the numbers simply aren’t there for him in a general election.

    In particular, David Bernstein in Politico.com writes: “The math suggests Trump would need a whopping 70 percent of white male voters to cast their ballots for him. That’s a larger percentage than Republicans have ever won before — more than the GOP won in the landslide victories of Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush, and far more than they won during the racially polarized elections of Barack Obama.”
    Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/03/donald-trump-needs-7-of-10-white-guys-213699#ixzz43C5qXVzc

    This analysis factors in his alienation of practically every minority group, including a 75% unfavorability rating by Hispanics and 61% of women polling for Clinton over Trump. The numbers are even more lopsided with Sanders as the nominee.

    Beyond that, it’s projected that Clinton will raise and spend at least $1.5 billion in the general election, while Trump (though a billionaire) is thought to have only about $300 million in liquidity, has shown little inclination to spend on his own campaign, and megadonors like the Koch brothers are unlikely to step up for him. Yeah, the money in electoral politics is obscene and undemocratic in principle but there it is.

    Add it all up and the general election sounds like practically a foregone conclusion with Trump on the ticket, and not much better with Cruz, who is despised almost equally by either party. No wonder the GOP is in full tilt panic mode. The collateral carnage could even extend into the House and Senate, let alone SCOTUS. The wild card, of course, is exactly who and how many actually turn out to vote on election day.

    Thursday, March 17, 2016 at 3:21 pm | Permalink
12. Hmm wrote:

    The BBC is naming a Trump presidency as one of the top 10 global risks. It is “above Britain leaving the EU or an armed clash in the South China Sea.”

    http://www.bbc.com/news/business-35828747

    Thursday, March 17, 2016 at 3:59 pm | Permalink
13. ThatGuy wrote:

    Video was taken down, but you can still get it here:

    https://www.citizensuperpac.com/heil-trump

    Thursday, March 17, 2016 at 7:11 pm | Permalink
14. ebdoug wrote:

    Yesterday I had a visit from an ignorant dyed in the wool Republican. He was shaking his hands because he can’t stand Trump (he has seen him on television) But he is not a male chauvinist misogynist. Trump appeals across party lines to the white male chauvinist misogynists.

    I assured my visitor that he can just undervote in November.

    And for those who can’t stand Clinton, just imagine if it was Elizabeth Warren running to be the first Female president. With her rantings against Wall Street, she’d have your vote instantly. Not liking Clinton is not a sexist thing.

    Friday, March 18, 2016 at 4:22 am | Permalink