When I saw this comic, I mistakenly read the third word as “Orifice” instead of “Office”.
Donald Trump is still complaining bitterly about all the leaks in his administration, and yet he seems to be as guilty as anyone.
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The guy who was forever complaining that no one was investigating Hillary’s server, benghazi and obama’s birth certificate is now trying to do what he can to slow down or stop the investigation of involvement by russia in us elections http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-mueller-idUSKCN18F2KK
Even as he does all this, his support level remains around 35%. I guess these are the ones who get their news only from fox, and some rich billionaires. I cant imagine who else would continue to support Trump amidst all this hypocrisy.
My theory as to what happened, Russians approached Flynn about Podesta’s emails. Flynn, in a best case scenario for trump, mentioned this possibility to trump without mentioning trumps involvement. Trump agreed and the podesta emails were leaked and the election swung towards trump. Trump recently found out all the details during the Flynn firing. This would clarify why Trump is so eager to protect Flynn and wants to slow down or even stop the investigation .
I also. Orifice. Seems equally appropriate.
In Trump World the only things that matter are things that make him look bad. His complaints are legitimate but not true for anyone else.
Look, I know how everyone on this site feels about Trump.
I know the major media’s are dead set on ousting him, but the stories, falsehoods and outright made up stuff is over the top.
I am not the best writer, so I found an article that says it way better then I could. There are serious inconsistencies and questions on what is supposedly being investigated. Russian meddling, collusion, money laundering? No one seems to be able to put a finger on it. No one seems to know who is involved. OK, Michael Flynn, who lied to the VP, and was fired the next day by the President. If he screwed up, he should be investigated. If it’s meddling by the Russians, then we ought to investigate also investigate ourselves, because we do that all the time in other countries elections, including the Obama Administrations meddling in the last Israeli election. So what are we investigating. And since I will be looked upon as a mindless, knuckle dragging racist, misogynistic, xenophobe for opposing the will of the progessives and their media minions, I’ll let Matt Taibbi make my point for me.
Exactly what is being investigated, and what is the wrong doing?
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/taibbi-how-did-russiagate-start-w482262
PatriotSgt, you mindless, knuckle dragging, racist, misogynistic xenophobe, I find myself in the unusual position of at least partially agreeing with you.
As much as I am embarrassed by the situation this country has placed itself with a moron as a leader and a government hellbent on continuing its 37 year screwing of the American people, I am equally embarrassed by the hard core left, drooling at the possibility of impeachment, and demanding it immediately.
What you don’t seem to realize that there is no clear idea of what to investigate because of stalling and smoke screens put up by those who wish to avoid an investigation. To think that an investigation needs to have a goal in mind is defeating the purpose of the investigation.
What we do know is that the Russians hacked the Dems computers (by asking for the password!!!!), and tried to influence the election in other ways. We do know that there was an unusual amount of conversation by people in the Trump campaign. And we know that Trump won the election. The investigation to to see if those things are in any way related. I don’t see an issue there.
Now is that where the investigation is going to end? I can guarantee that it will not. Investigations take on a life of their own and seldom answer the question originally asked. The result of the investigation is something that we all have no idea about now and will be surprised about when it is all over, if it is ever all over. By throwing doubts upon it now, as the right wing talking points have directed you, it is an attempt to keep it from getting started, and that ship has already sailed.
The most interesting point I have heard over the last few days is that Bill Clinton MET Monica Lewinski a full two years AFTER Ken Starr was made special prosecutor.
Ken Starr, by all accounts, was highly political and politicized *everything*. On the other hand, Robert Mueller is extremely and famously non-political. Which is good, because Comey ended up politicizing things by reporting on Clinton’s server, but keeping closed mouthed about the Russian-Trump connections.
As IL-08 points out, we are investigating the way overboard number of conversations between members of the Trump campaign and the Russians, the strong evidence of Russian meddling, and the outright lies coming from members of the Trump campaign, to see if there was any illegal collusion.
Speaking of lies, it is completely untrue that Flynn was fired the day after he lied to Pence. Trump was warned about Flynn before he hired Flynn, he was warned afterwards. After Flynn lied to Pence, there were several weeks (during which Trump was told about it). Only much later, after the news broke in the media, did Trump finally fire Flynn.
Treason is not a trivial crime. If there was treason, and there is plenty of evidence that there might have been, then we owe it to ourselves to investigate it fully.
If the worst complaint you can come up with is that they don’t exactly know what they are looking for, then the same thing could be said even more about Benghazi. After all, it was the (insanely long) Benghazi investigation that strangely morphed into the Clinton email server investigation, which finally morphed into the Weiner laptop investigation.
BTW, that Matt Taibbi article is excellent, thanks for posting it. But I think you might have missed the point. He complained that we don’t know what they are investigating, not that they don’t know. He wants this information released to the American people. All this random leaking is leading to craziness. I think Clapper definitely knows more than he is saying and might even be lying. Wouldn’t be the first time.
I’m thinking the investigations will, as most any investigation does, follow where it leads. A good way to reduce the angst that some are expressing with regards to “hard core liberals” (damn, I’m glad I’m really a socialist, not a liberal “>D), just quit spending so much time studying the matter. I’m more than willing to let the investigations take their sweet time rolling along and, personally, hoping that a reasonable resolution has some ring of truth to it. Meanwhile, at least some of the time, I’m sitting back and watching what is truly a historical event unfold before my very eyes.
Here’s the press release by the justice dept stating what the special counsel will be investigating ie previously-confirmed FBI investigation of Russian government efforts to influence the 2016 presidential election and related matters.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/appointment-special-counsel
Its pretty clear from what has transpired that there are two possibilities with regards to trump
1) Trump is innocent and was not involved in any way with the above. But he is stupid since his actions the last few days have exacerbated the situation. HE could have waited patiently for the final outcome and he could have used the outcome as political capital to do whatever he wanted. Instead he fired the FBI lead, admitted that he did because of the investigation and then appeared to lie or give another reason about it. As results the investigation has gathered steam.
2) Trump is guilty of something. His actions detailed by comey point to trump having something to hide.
I would hardly paint myself as a wild leftist, but the best outcome as a result of what has transpired the last few days is that trump no longer be president. HE is either stupid or guilty and cannot lead the country. Nothing will happen in terms of proper legislation for a while.
In my hard core left view, a wounded ineffective Trump presidency is preferable to a united Republican Party controlling both houses of congress with a president Pence and 18 months before an election. Unless, of course, he blows up the world, then maybe I’m wrong.
IK, I got his point and it’s exactly my point. The congress and senate intel committee people have said the saw no evidence of collusion. Clapper said there was no collusion that he could see, even Comey could not confirm. So if they are investigating members of the Trump team then tell the President, who when I previously misstated fired Flynn as soon as he found out.
Yes, Trump seems way over his head in the political game, but I do believe he is trying to do some good things. It’s a shame that there is no one in the swamp willing to do the same. I’ll also admit he is not helping himself by chastising and calling out everyone on virtually anything. I think the people should vote out everyone in congress and replace them with people of and for the people.
What I would love to see is congress investigate the classified info leakers. That IS actually a criminal offense. In my new job as a contractor for an unnamed 3 letter agency I can tell you we sign umpteen agreements to not devulge any classified, sensitive or FOUO information under penalty of being charged criminally. All those agreements continues until death regardless of your employment status.
Is there any lack of information on nepotism and conflict of interests?
Hassan – no lack of information and, yet, there is probably much more that could come to light.
PSgt – To me, one must weigh the positives and negatives with regard to any politicians actions (yes, Drumpf is most certainly a politician). The short and long term downside of the Drumpf presidency is out there to see. Kill the EPA. Give away gubmint lands. Destroy domestic programs. Increase defense spending on an already grossly bloated DoD. Feed the divisions in the country – not heal them. Diminish the value of a free press in the US. I could go on and on. Now, give me the upsides – I find few, if any.
Nottycoon, I’d disagree on 2 of your points. The defense budget is not grossly bloated. What we should do as Trump has stated is get the countries that benefit from our defense (many of the developed nations) to pay their fair share. Many don’t even have the ability to defend themselves including a lot of NATO countries, because we’ve obligated ourselves under past agreements to do the defending for them. We also provide defense for many pacific rim countries, Japan and Korea come to mind.
As to feeding division and not heeling it, I’d say the last President was much more of a divider in chief then this one. Dividing people into groups and categories is much more of a democrat game of us versus them.
I like the Trumps immigration policy of enforcing the laws already on the books. I like that he stood up to and responded to Assad’s use of chemical weapons, which I would remind you that Kerry, Rice and Obama had all hailed their agreement that rid Syria of it’s chemical weapons.
I like that he is at least trying to keep some jobs and giving the forgotten blue collar workers hope that at least the president is on their side.
Given the lack of leadership on both isles of congress, and that neither seems inclined to tackle, healthcare, tax reform or the debt he is fighting the media, the right and left for the sake of the common man. He won’t make everyone happy, Obama made the left happy, Bush made the right happy, so I guess Trump is working the middle, for a change.