Political Irony

10 Comments

1. Duckman wrote:

   To be fair, the republicans are kinda right. We have no idea what we have just done and Gadhafi hasn’t sponsored terrorism since atleast the Iraq War, might of stopped before then, not sure. He even gave up his nuclear program.

   Obviously the acts he committed during the uprising proved he was still a evil prick, but he wasnt exactly attacking us, relations were definatly improving

   Sunday, October 23, 2011 at 12:20 pm | Permalink
2. Iron Knee wrote:

   Um, couldn’t we have said the same things about Saddam in Iraq?

   I just want to point out the significant differences between how Iraq and Libya were handled, and how the Republicans talked about both of them.

   Sunday, October 23, 2011 at 1:32 pm | Permalink
3. Thought Dancer wrote:

   Though I agree that the Republicans shown in the clip were at those points dodging giving credit to Obama…they also had a point. Lead on Libya was British and French, for which those countries deserve credit.

   And it is refreshing to see someone other than us being lead on being the “world’s policeman”. Libya was much more a problem for them…it’s oil mainly goes to Europe, for instance. They should have the lead.

   But, yes, dodging giving Obama his credit is tacky. Very tacky.

   Sunday, October 23, 2011 at 2:13 pm | Permalink
4. Robert wrote:

   Don’t forget that the reason we aren’t talking about Libya as another horror the likes of Rwanda, Haiti or Bosnia is because we backed the rebels with air power, supplies, and possible CIA or special forces on the ground.

   Gaddaffi wanted to kill them all and we stopped him from doing that.

   Sunday, October 23, 2011 at 5:45 pm | Permalink
5. effisland wrote:

   Actually a Canadian general was in charge of the UN-backed forces in Libya.
   On March 25, Lieutenant-General Charles Bouchard of the Canadian Forces was chosen to command the operation.

   “I’m sure that putting the CF-18s in there helped Bouchard get it,” said the government official, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

   Another official said that a Canadian commander was probably chosen to bypass French and British rivalries and to reassure the Americans.

   http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/canada-turns-commitment-into-clout-in-libya/article2210169/

   Sunday, October 23, 2011 at 7:13 pm | Permalink
6. Thought Dancer wrote:

   Effisland. I missed that. Thank you.

   Monday, October 24, 2011 at 2:36 am | Permalink
7. Duckman wrote:

   @Iron Knee: Of course we can say that now. You couldn’t argue that at the time though, as we were under the impression that we were going in to find weapons of mass destruction. Saddam was taken our for this reason, while Gadhafi was a social uprising.

   What I guess I am trying to say is, you cannot compare our current facts/feelingson an event that happened in the past and one that has just taken place. You always learn more as the years go on, so we need to compare what happened in iraq with what we knew/felt at the time saddam fell. Totally different reasoning.

   Monday, October 24, 2011 at 3:47 am | Permalink
8. Dan wrote:

   First off, the operation could not have happened without American Command and Control/AWACs and drones. None of our allies have those capabilities and depend on the US for those.
   Further, I was in Kuwait 20 miles from Iraq for “Desert Fox” in 1998. They had no response then. How was Iraq going to deliver WMDs to American shores? By ship? HA! They were ZERO threat to the US population. Everything about that war was a fabrication, except for the 100s of thousand dead and over a million maimed.

   Monday, October 24, 2011 at 4:50 pm | Permalink
9. Yudith wrote:

   Hey people, while we are rejoicing for Libya’s new found “freedom”, did you notice that they implanted Sharia? I hope they all cultivated their beard and ditched their jeans. Will we have to sanction them like Iran or will we have to invade them like Afganistan? Hey, Libyans, Iranis and Afgans are not happy with their situation; they are not even allowed to use Facebook when they can afford it! Just in case you thought that they were bathing in honey flavoured milk and petrodollars. And by the way, it can be very useful to have a wife who can drive her kids to school or buy groceries alone. Please repel Sharia! Please install democracy, real democracy instead! Look at Turkey, aren’t they nice and smug? That’s what your model should be!

   Tuesday, October 25, 2011 at 10:57 am | Permalink
10. Iron Knee wrote:

    Yudith, your comment is almost completely fact free. Saying that Libya has implemented Sharia law is about the same as saying that the US is based on Christian law. Libya has said that women will have the same rights as men.

    See http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/10/24/libya-sharia-law.html

    Not surprisingly, there are many different degrees of Sharia law. For example, Egypt has also “implemented” Sharia law, and Egypt is very progressive. Asking if “we will have to invade them like Afganistan [sic]” is just nutso.

    Tuesday, October 25, 2011 at 3:07 pm | Permalink