Comments on: Why the Electoral College sucks, graphically. http://politicalirony.com/2008/11/02/why-the-electoral-college-sucks-graphically/ Humor and Hypocrisy from the World of Politics Mon, 15 Mar 2010 00:08:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: greg http://politicalirony.com/2008/11/02/why-the-electoral-college-sucks-graphically/#comment-22089 greg Sat, 31 Jan 2009 02:21:03 +0000 http://politicalirony.com/?p=2503#comment-22089 Jenni, That site you posted left off W. Bush, although I suppose it is forgivable given that it is only written a month after the election. Jenni,

That site you posted left off W. Bush, although I suppose it is forgivable given that it is only written a month after the election.

]]> By: Student of History http://politicalirony.com/2008/11/02/why-the-electoral-college-sucks-graphically/#comment-21498 Student of History Wed, 28 Jan 2009 00:56:13 +0000 http://politicalirony.com/?p=2503#comment-21498 This sort of article drives me crazy. The point of the electoral college is simple and important. We live in country formed out of separate states, and the state divides are important. It's why each state legislates on it's own and has it's own government. States have their own rights, that need to be protected. A state with more real estate (and consequently a large pop.) does not have greater rights then a State with a smaller pop, legally speaking. I put up with having a vote that means less because I like the weather in California. It's a choice you make about where you live, just like picking a house based on property tax. The argument should not be about protecting the farmers. It's about protecting the individual states. Now, you can argue against the importance of State rights, but don't veil it in a weak argument about the electoral college being "unfair" to the poor voters. The round off error is unfortunate, but unavoidable. This sort of article drives me crazy. The point of the electoral college is simple and important. We live in country formed out of separate states, and the state divides are important. It’s why each state legislates on it’s own and has it’s own government. States have their own rights, that need to be protected. A state with more real estate (and consequently a large pop.) does not have greater rights then a State with a smaller pop, legally speaking.

I put up with having a vote that means less because I like the weather in California. It’s a choice you make about where you live, just like picking a house based on property tax.

The argument should not be about protecting the farmers. It’s about protecting the individual states. Now, you can argue against the importance of State rights, but don’t veil it in a weak argument about the electoral college being “unfair” to the poor voters.

The round off error is unfortunate, but unavoidable.

]]> By: Shaun http://politicalirony.com/2008/11/02/why-the-electoral-college-sucks-graphically/#comment-21357 Shaun Tue, 27 Jan 2009 03:19:28 +0000 http://politicalirony.com/?p=2503#comment-21357 Beyond the fact this is obviously stolen, there is another huge flaw. The problem is that the electoral college wasn't created for 1 person 1 vote...that would be a democracy. Much to many peoples surprise, we are not a democracy. We are a republic, our votes mean absolutely nothing...we don't even have a right to vote constitutionally. Instead, we give people the right to vote for people who will represent them. As Ben Franklin once said, a democracy is two wolves and one sheep deciding on whats for dinner. The founders felt democracy was the most dangerous form of government, more dangerous than even a monarchy. Unfortunately the left wing media tries to push the idea of a democracy onto a public that was educated by the government to believe we are a democracy Beyond the fact this is obviously stolen, there is another huge flaw. The problem is that the electoral college wasn’t created for 1 person 1 vote…that would be a democracy. Much to many peoples surprise, we are not a democracy. We are a republic, our votes mean absolutely nothing…we don’t even have a right to vote constitutionally. Instead, we give people the right to vote for people who will represent them. As Ben Franklin once said, a democracy is two wolves and one sheep deciding on whats for dinner.

The founders felt democracy was the most dangerous form of government, more dangerous than even a monarchy. Unfortunately the left wing media tries to push the idea of a democracy onto a public that was educated by the government to believe we are a democracy

]]> By: Ethan R. http://politicalirony.com/2008/11/02/why-the-electoral-college-sucks-graphically/#comment-19654 Ethan R. Wed, 14 Jan 2009 04:25:48 +0000 http://politicalirony.com/?p=2503#comment-19654 I think that this is a very true fact that no one notices but should be recognized more. No state such as Wyoming should have more representation per elector than Florida. They should somehow be proportionately equal. And if someone found this in the NYT then they should officially recognize them, because after all fair is fair. I think that this is a very true fact that no one notices but should be recognized more. No state such as Wyoming should have more representation per elector than Florida. They should somehow be proportionately equal. And if someone found this in the NYT then they should officially recognize them, because after all fair is fair.

]]> By: Dan http://politicalirony.com/2008/11/02/why-the-electoral-college-sucks-graphically/#comment-12067 Dan Sat, 06 Dec 2008 19:29:20 +0000 http://politicalirony.com/?p=2503#comment-12067 Require a national voter ID card which requires proof of us citizenship to get and harsh penalties for fraud and you would have a entirely different result for most elections. In all my 65 years, I have never seen the mass media so "in the tank" for one candidate. Require a national voter ID card which requires proof of us citizenship to get and harsh penalties for fraud and you would have a entirely different result for most elections. In all my 65 years, I have never seen the mass media so “in the tank” for one candidate.

]]> By: Political Disgust http://politicalirony.com/2008/11/02/why-the-electoral-college-sucks-graphically/#comment-10057 Political Disgust Sat, 22 Nov 2008 14:31:35 +0000 http://politicalirony.com/?p=2503#comment-10057 I think the reality in the end is that we will not see it changed any time soon or in our lifetimes. It is the basis of the current political system. It would take a landslide popular vote winner, who also LOSES the electoral vote - for there to be a big enough uprising to change the system. That wont happen. There might be close popular vote counts, but there will not be a landslide vote winner who also loses the electoral vote. -- Political Disgust I think the reality in the end is that we will not see it changed any time soon or in our lifetimes. It is the basis of the current political system.
It would take a landslide popular vote winner, who also LOSES the electoral vote – for there to be a big enough uprising to change the system. That wont happen. There might be close popular vote counts, but there will not be a landslide vote winner who also loses the electoral vote.

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Political Disgust

]]> By: Jeff http://politicalirony.com/2008/11/02/why-the-electoral-college-sucks-graphically/#comment-9975 Jeff Sat, 22 Nov 2008 04:25:46 +0000 http://politicalirony.com/?p=2503#comment-9975 Wahhhh! Wahhhh!

]]> By: disabled Vietvet http://politicalirony.com/2008/11/02/why-the-electoral-college-sucks-graphically/#comment-8880 disabled Vietvet Sun, 16 Nov 2008 14:59:42 +0000 http://politicalirony.com/?p=2503#comment-8880 electoral college - what a rigged for the big wigs pile of (not printable) this is -- a white elephant left over from the aristocracy days of old. If it is to be kept maybe the benefits and liabilities of citizenship should be proportioned in like manner. Take the draft for instance If the votes in one state are 3 times more influential than in another state due to this pile of (again not printable) then residents in the former state should be 3 times more likely to be drafted. Or maybe they should receive 1/3 the benefits as a disabled veteran (like myself) compared to the disable residents of the latter underrepresented state. best not get started. MAKE IT GO AWAY electoral college – what a rigged for the big wigs pile of (not printable) this is — a white elephant left over from the aristocracy days of old. If it is to be kept maybe the benefits and liabilities of citizenship should be proportioned in like manner.

Take the draft for instance If the votes in one state are 3 times more influential than in another state due to this pile of (again not printable) then residents in the former state should be 3 times more likely to be drafted. Or maybe they should receive 1/3 the benefits as a disabled veteran (like myself) compared to the disable residents of the latter underrepresented state.

best not get started. MAKE IT GO AWAY

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